Legislature(2019 - 2020)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/13/2019 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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+ SB 53 UNIVERSITY REPORTING REQUIREMENTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+ SB 43 EXTEND BIG GAME COMMERCIAL SERVICES BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 36 EXTEND BOARD OF NURSING TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 36 Out of Committee
SENATE BILL NO. 53                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the duties of the Board of Regents                                                                     
     of the University of Alaska."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:05:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARY STEVENS,  SPONSOR, thanked  the committee  for                                                                    
hearing the bill.  He pondered how many  college degrees had                                                                    
been  completed by  the committee  members.  He thought  the                                                                    
loss of accreditation  by the University of  Alaska for it's                                                                    
teaching  program  in  Anchorage  was tragic.  He  had  been                                                                    
surprised that  the president and  Board of Regents  had not                                                                    
known  of  the impending  loss  of  accreditation. The  bill                                                                    
would  require   that  the  legislature  to   twice  a  year                                                                    
investigate   the  accreditation   of  the   University.  He                                                                    
lamented that once  accreditation was lost it  could take up                                                                    
to 5  years to gain it  back. He relayed that  there were 65                                                                    
accreditations around  the University.  He said that  it was                                                                    
very important  that the Board  of Regents and  the resident                                                                    
track the accreditation of the University.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:10:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM  LAMKIN,  STAFF,  SENATOR GARY  STEVENS,  discussed  the                                                                    
Sectional Analysis for SB 53 (copy on file):                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von Imhof  asked how  the Board  of Regents  could                                                                    
have   approached  Senator   Stevens  with   the  issue   of                                                                    
accreditation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stevens  had not  communicated  with  the Board  of                                                                    
Regents regarding  the issue.  He thought  that the  loss of                                                                    
accreditation  had been  an error  on the  board's part.  He                                                                    
discussed teacher accreditation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:12:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked whether the Universitys accreditation                                                                       
could have been saved if legislation like SB 53 had already                                                                     
existed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stevens replied in the affirmative. He noted that                                                                       
the bill required the Board of Regents to report to the                                                                         
legislature twice a year concerning accreditation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:13:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin reviewed the      Explanation of Changes: From                                                                       
Version A to Version U (copy on file):                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1 & 2: Conforming Report Recipients                                                                            
     For   consistency   with    other   various   reporting                                                                    
     requirements  of  state  agencies,  both  the  existing                                                                    
     requirement for  reporting on UA teacher  training, and                                                                    
     the  new UA  accreditation  report are  required to  be                                                                    
     submitted to the Legislature  (Senate Secretary / House                                                                  
                            th                                                                                                  
     Chief Clerk)  by the 30   legislative day.  The reports                                                                    
     are subsequently  to be presented  in a  formal hearing                                                                  
     setting to the education committees:                                                                                       
          a. The teachers report remaining biennial                                                                             
          (beginning of each new Legislature)                                                                                   
          b. The accreditation report being submitted                                                                           
          semiannually, twice per year:                                                                                         
               i. By the 30th legislative day (approx. Feb                                                                      
               15); and                                                                                                         
               ii. On or by July 1st                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2: Report Detail                                                                                               
     Language detailing report content  was amended to align                                                                    
     with  common   terms  used   in  academia   as  regards                                                                    
     accreditation, and cross referenced from:                                                                                  
          a. a current report submitted to the Board of                                                                         
        Regents, disaggregating report components;                                                                              
          b. the fiscal note, citing existing Board of                                                                          
          Regents policy (P10.06.010).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The intent  of the changes  in this section is  to make                                                                    
     this new  reporting requirement fairly align  with what                                                                    
     is  currently   reported  to  the  Board   of  Regents,                                                                    
     broadening  the awareness  of such  reports to  include                                                                    
     the legislature.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Reporting detail  calls for particular emphasis  on any                                                                    
     potential loss of accreditation in the future.                                                                             
9:15:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche wondered  why there was not  a reference to                                                                    
meeting the  requirements for the Council  for Accreditation                                                                    
of Educator Preparation (CAEP).                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lamkin  stated  that the  bill  was  an  accountability                                                                    
measure. It  was presumed that the  report would necessitate                                                                    
more  scrutiny   of  the  process   and  the   following  of                                                                    
regulation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stevens  reminded the committee  that there  were 65                                                                    
accreditation agencies, and that CAEP  was only one of those                                                                    
agencies. He  did not think  it was easy for  the university                                                                    
to keep  track of  all the  various accreditations  but that                                                                    
they  had a  responsibility  to do  so.  He reiterated  that                                                                    
there  had been  a lack  of attention  that resulted  in the                                                                    
loss of accreditation.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:17:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Micciche   referenced   Section   1,   which   was                                                                    
specifically about  teachers. He  thought that the  bill was                                                                    
important but wondered  what set of standards  would be used                                                                    
to craft the biannual report sent to the legislature.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stevens  was  not  sure   how  to  address  Senator                                                                    
Micciche's question.  He reiterated that the  review process                                                                    
was complicated.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof thought after reading  the accreditation                                                                    
requirements  for  the School  of  Education,  there were  5                                                                    
standards that had to be  met in order to meet accreditation                                                                    
standards. She  suspected that in the  reporting there would                                                                    
be  a  listing  of   each  requirement  needed  to  maintain                                                                    
accreditation,  along   with  a   description  of   how  the                                                                    
University was meeting those requirements.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stevens  did not want  to go overly into  detail. He                                                                    
wanted  the  bill  to  result   in  increased  attention  to                                                                    
accreditation. He did not think  that the bill needed to get                                                                    
into  the minutia,  due to  the  65 different  accreditation                                                                    
agencies.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:21:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  LAYER,  VICE  PRESIDENT FOR  ACADEMICS  AND  RESEARCH,                                                                    
UNIVERSITY  OF   ALASKA,  FAIRBANKS   (via  teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in  support  of  the   bill.  He  said  that  the                                                                    
University  had  the  ability to  reply  with  the  requests                                                                    
outlined  in  the  bill.  He   stated  that  the  University                                                                    
currently  reported   annually  to  the  Board   of  Regents                                                                    
regarding   accreditation.   He   described  the   loss   of                                                                    
accreditation as  an avoidable tragedy. He  noted that there                                                                    
were problems that  the University had not  been unaware but                                                                    
that steps were  being taken for quarterly  reporting to the                                                                    
board and to  the president of the University.  He said that                                                                    
the   different   national   organizations  that   did   the                                                                    
accreditation  had  different  requirements and  methods  of                                                                    
reporting, some  were very specific,  and some did  not want                                                                    
their recommendations made public.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:24:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof  understood  that  the  University  was                                                                    
looking  to  get  accreditation   back  for  the  School  of                                                                    
Education at  the University of Alaska  Anchorage (UAA). She                                                                    
asked how long the process was expected to take.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Layer  responded that  an assessment  was being  done to                                                                    
determine whether  the UAA programs should  be reaccredited.                                                                    
He  stated that  the University  was drafting  documentation                                                                    
about the  process and the  board would be meeting  in April                                                                    
2019  to make  a recommendation.  He continued  that UA  was                                                                    
also considering  whether the currently  accredited programs                                                                    
at the  University of Alaska Southeast  (UAS) and University                                                                    
of Alaska Fairbanks  (UAF) could meet the  needs of students                                                                    
in  Anchorage  who  were  pursuing  teaching  accreditation.                                                                    
Moving forward  with reaccreditation  of UAA  programs would                                                                    
take a  couple of  years to compile  the necessary  data and                                                                    
demonstrate proficiency. He said  that the question was what                                                                    
to  do  for students  in  the  meantime who  were  currently                                                                    
enrolled in those programs.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:25:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Shower   had   concerns    about   the   loss   of                                                                    
accreditation.   He  thought   it  was   the  duty   of  the                                                                    
legislature to  investigate the issue. He  asked whether Mr.                                                                    
Layer  thought the  loss of  accreditation would  lead to  a                                                                    
more robust focus on requirements.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Layer thought  the incident would lead to  a more robust                                                                    
analysis   and   feedback   mechanism.  He   lamented   that                                                                    
information and  concerns for the  teaching program  had not                                                                    
been conveyed  up through  the administrative  structure. He                                                                    
thought  there   would  be   more  scrutiny   and  increased                                                                    
transparency as a  result of the process.  He continued that                                                                    
the university  was considering  how the  different programs                                                                    
reported  to   the  board.  He  thought   reporting  to  the                                                                    
legislature would help in the process.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:28:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop hoped  that the  University  would take  the                                                                    
lessons learned from the event  and move forward with a plan                                                                    
for it  never to happen  again. He discussed  his experience                                                                    
in the oil and glass  and construction business; where there                                                                    
would be a "stand down"  process after an incident. He hoped                                                                    
that there  would be internal  controls and the  addition of                                                                    
checks  and  balances. He  noted  that  the University  used                                                                    
general fund dollars and should  be making all accreditation                                                                    
information public.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:30:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof  asked  whether  Mr.  Layer  wanted  to                                                                    
respond to Senator Bishop's comments.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Layer thought Senator Bishop's  analogy of an industrial                                                                    
accident was apt.  He opined that there had  been checks and                                                                    
balances  in place  but there  had  clearly been  a lack  of                                                                    
oversight. He  assured that committee that  steps were being                                                                    
taken  to  make sure  that  loss  of accreditation  did  not                                                                    
happen again.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:31:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  was concerned about  the students  who might                                                                    
be  relocated  from  Anchorage.   He  wondered  whether  the                                                                    
University had considered transferring  student to a private                                                                    
entity in the area.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Layer  affirmed that  UAA had  been working  with Alaska                                                                    
Pacific University (APU), which did  not have the breadth of                                                                    
programs offered by UAA. He  reiterated that APU had limited                                                                    
capacity.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:32:57 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator  Micciche wondered  how the  report proposed  by the                                                                    
bill was  different than the  status quo, if there  were not                                                                    
guidance  documents that  relayed  standards. He  referenced                                                                    
his background  in engineering. He thought  most often there                                                                    
were multiple  layers of  failure at  work that  resulted in                                                                    
the  loss of  accreditation.  If the  University provided  a                                                                    
report to  the legislature, he  wondered how the  body would                                                                    
have  any reference  to  act  as a  check  against what  the                                                                    
University provided.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Layer stated  that  he  was not  an  expert in  teacher                                                                    
accreditation,   and  had   difficulty  assessing   what  an                                                                    
accreditor might  recommend. He  thought it was  a challenge                                                                    
to  assess  a comment  from  an  accreditor. He  recalled  a                                                                    
report  with  concerns, but  it  was  unclear whether  those                                                                    
concerns were of the caliber that  would result in a loss of                                                                    
accreditation. Most accreditation  reviews had comments, but                                                                    
he found  it difficult  to assess the  severity. He  was not                                                                    
sure how  the legislature  would assess the  report proposed                                                                    
in the  bill. He  relayed that all  the University  could do                                                                    
was  provide the  reports  from  accrediting agencies,  when                                                                    
possible, of quality concerns.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:36:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop   commented  that   UAS  and  UAF   had  not                                                                    
experienced problems with accreditation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:36:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Shower  asserted that accountability  was important.                                                                    
He asked  whether anyone had  been held accountable  for the                                                                    
loss of accreditation at UAA.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Layer wanted to clarify  that UAF underwent a successful                                                                    
review  in   the  previous  year,  and   UAS  was  currently                                                                    
undergoing an accreditation review process and self-study.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Layer  thought  accountability  was  a  big  issue  and                                                                    
reminded that  there was  new leadership at  UAA and  in the                                                                    
School of  Education. New reporting would  identify a person                                                                    
as a responsible party for  an accreditation review. The new                                                                    
reporting would require  that a person be  identified as the                                                                    
lead  for the  accreditation  review, those  names would  be                                                                    
associated  with  each  of  the  accreditation  reviews  and                                                                    
responsible parties would be identified.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:39:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof OPENED public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:40:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop reviewed FN 1 from University of Alaska, OMB                                                                     
component 1296. He read from the analysis on page 2 of the                                                                      
fiscal note:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The   University   of   Alaska  estimates   that   this                                                                    
     legislation  would have  no  fiscal  impact on  current                                                                    
     operations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Under current  law, AS 14.40.190, the  Board of Regents                                                                    
     of the University of Alaska  must prepare a report that                                                                    
     provides:                                                                                                                  
          a) the condition  of university property; receipts                                                                    
          and  expenditures; administration  and disposition                                                                    
          of  appropriated and  restricted funds,  including                                                                    
          the  unexpended  balance of  university  receipts;                                                                    
          and on  the educational  and other  work performed                                                                    
          by the university during  the preceding year. This                                                                    
          report is  due annually  at the beginning  of each                                                                    
          regular legislative session.                                                                                          
          b) information  on teacher  preparation, retention                                                                    
          and  recruitment programs  and initiatives  at the                                                                    
          University  of  Alaska.  This   report  is  to  be                                                                    
          entitled   "Alaska's   University   for   Alaska's                                                                    
          Schools" and is due no  later than the 30th day of                                                                    
          the  first  regular  legislative  session.  It  is                                                                    
          sometimes referred to as the  SB 241 Report, after                                                                    
          the   2008  bill   establishing  the   requirement                                                                    
          [Chapter 71, SLA 2008].                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     This   legislation   would   add  a   third   reporting                                                                    
     requirement  by  adding  a new  subsection  (c)  to  AS                                                                    
     14.40.190.  The board  would be  required to  prepare a                                                                    
     biennial report  on the  status of  national, regional,                                                                    
     and  programmatic accreditations  at the  University of                                                                    
     Alaska,  and  describing  the  efforts  being  made  to                                                                    
     maintain  or achieve  those accreditations.  The report                                                                    
     would be  presented to the  House and  Senate Education                                                                    
     Committees  no later  than the  30th day  of the  first                                                                    
     regular legislative session.                                                                                               
9:41:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB  53  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB053_UA_Accred_Reporting_SponsorStatement_20Feb2019.pdf SEDC 2/21/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
SB053_UnivAK_AccreditReporting_Research_CAEP Report_Dec2018.pdf SEDC 2/21/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
SB053_UnivAK_AccreditReporting_Research_CAEP_RevocationLetter_11JAN2019.pdf SEDC 2/21/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
SB053_UnivAK_AccreditReporting_Research_Existing UA Accred Summary_21Feb2019.pdf SEDC 2/21/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
07_SB053_UnivAK_AccreditReporting_Research_BOR Policy_April2014.pdf SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
11_SB053_UnivAK_AccreditReporting_Sectional_VersionU.pdf SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
12_SB053_UA_Accred_Reporting_ExplainChanges_Version A to U.pdf SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
SB 43 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 43
SB 43 Big Game Commercial Services Board Sunset Review Audit.pdf HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 43
SB 43 Letters of Opposition.pdf HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 4/9/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 43
SB 43 Letters of Support.pdf SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 4/9/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 43
SB 43 Senator von Imhof.docx SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 4/9/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 43
SB 43 RHAK Letter Senate Finance - Extend Big Game Commercial Services Board.pdf SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 4/9/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 43
SB 43 CBPL Timeline of Investigations.pdf SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 4/9/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 43
SB 36 Letter of Support APRN 3-4-19.pdf HL&C 4/24/2019 3:15:00 PM
SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
SB 43 Bunch Testimony.pdf HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 4/9/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 43
SB 43 Additional Testimony Huttunen.pdf HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 3/13/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 4/9/2019 9:00:00 AM
SB 43